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Thoughts of a Brooding apostate

Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend to friendSend to friendPDF versionPDF versionArslan: Thoughts of a Brooding atheist, an apostate and an anti-theist Greetings to All, The paradigm of change in the fundamental understanding of Islam that the world is currently witnessing is truly astonishing and heartwarming. As though people with relatively stable cognitions have suddenly realized that Islam is, in fact, not a religion but an absolutist political ideology feigning as a religion. Faith freedom international is one of the most prominent platforms and sources that are powering this current paradigm of change. Bravo and salutations to the members, affiliates, and authors that have set this site up. I am Arslan, an ex-Muslim, and a hard line atheist. I am highly critical of Islam in all of its forms and flavors, a 'blasphemer' so to speak. Although the very word makes no logical sense, as I believe it to be impossible to blaspheme against Islam. i.e. stating the historical and factual realities of Islam does not qualify as being blasphemes. For example, if someone says that Muhammad was involved in looting, pillaging, assassinations, and subjugation of masses, he/she is not blaspheming, because these are facts of Islamic history. I need not cite references. One can find an abundance of them on this fantastic site. Philosophical musings aside, I will say something about myself: I am a medical scientist working as a researcher in Leeds, UK.  I am a Pakistani national currently residing in United Kingdom. Now a few words about Pakistan: Pakistan is a land that is indefinable.  A hodgepodge of chaotic forces; societal, ethnic and political, whose inhabitants have one thing in common: their love and devotion to Islam.  It’s not a country, just a piece of land that has managed to survive a split in 1971 and an earlier war with India. I believe that is enough about Pakistan (Pakistan='The land of the pure', or 'Pure land'......Need I say more?). My personal journey from being a Muslim to being an atheist has been eventful and fraught with a few threats here and there. Firstly, I never was a devout Muslim...mostly I was a non practicing, borderline Muslim. My arrival in UK opened up avenues for me to study Islam in a critical manner. There is absolutely no space for an individual who abandons Islam (i.e. commits apostasy) in an Islamic society. An apostate is considered, implicitly and explicitly, an enemy of Islam, and more importantly an enemy of the Islamic state. It becomes the duty of Sharia abiding citizens to kill such a person. Pakistan’s Penal code 295, 298 state that a 'Blasphemer' should be executed. Everyone, on this site, must be well aware of Gogra incident where seven Pakistani Christians were burned alive because of the rumored allegation that they desecrated the Quran.   I know for a fact that I would not be safe in my native country. The added reason for my fear is that I am an active atheist, and an active anti-theist. I go out and actively participate in spreading the truth. That is how it should be. But I always strive to keep a modicum of decency and engage in proper dialogue, I do not believe that spewing hate against Islam without any rational basis is a good strategy to make a point.  In fact it is quite counterproductive. I have had dialogues with Muslim scholars. A few prominent Muslim students in Leeds know my views and they positively despise me. So far I have received two threats (one of them hidden death threat). I have emancipated two individuals, so far, from Islam just through dialogue. Although I would say that they were already susceptible but my discussion with them served as the last nail in the coffin of Islam for them, so to speak. Truth about Islam must be spread. Nothing more, nothing less! It is our duty (at least that is my personal conviction). I say this because the greatest victims of Islam, in most instances, are Muslims themselves. I know of so many incidents where this political ideology has caused untold suffering to so many people, including my loved ones.   What Islam does to a person or a society is simply heartbreaking.  I am often moved to the brink of crying my heart out over how women are treated in my country. The tales are harrowing and demonic. I have witnessed Islam, very closely, and it is a very morbid and convoluted ideology that completely warps the mind of a gullible human being.  Islam crushes people. It vanquishes the soul and destroys any sense of humanity.  It transforms a person into something else. Regards A concerned Brother
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greetings. May I ask what

greetings. May I ask what does Arslan?


Welcome to humanity and stay

Welcome to humanity and stay safe Arslan.


Greetings Marie and

Greetings Marie and FFI.

Firstly, my warmest greetings and deepest gratitude to the FFI team for publishing my letter.

Also, I have noticed that proper editing has been done by the administration which is commendable.

Marie, Did you intend to ask about my occupation?

supposing that was the case in your question:

I am a veterinary doctor and a microbiologist working currently in UK.
I love philosophy and writing.
Currently working on my novel, 'Red Doll.'
Arslan means lion.

Have a good day Marie.

Regards


Congrats for opening up to

Congrats for opening up to humanity. We all human beings need free thinking and logical bend of mind.
ex-muslims and there efforts are the only hope, while muslims are using all the dirty tricks of the trade to further islam. In mosques mullahs are encouraging to have an abnormal number of babies and in pakistan, india and bangladesh the landmass cant support so many people. The water is scarce and thus with population explosion I fear a mass war to rioting etc can happen and pakistan and india can use nuclear weapons. God knows what will happen.
Mullahs are telling to have minimum 8 -12 children as these are allahs gift and mujhahids and will destroy kuffrs and create a grand khilafat.
But who will tell that with population explosion, the water level falls, trees etc were cut and huge dessert will form and people will be killing each other.


Ms Marie Arslan means lion

Ms Marie

Arslan means lion in Turkish and Mongolian language.

Greeting brother Arslan, I am an apostate like you. But I am a Theist. My belief in God is dissimilar from the Abrahamic faith.

Yes, Islam is a product of more than thousand years of lies, deceit and treachery. A closer inspection on the life of the closest companion and family of the "Prophet" will revealed the double faced policy and hypocrisy of Islam. Apart from the fact that they decapitate one another as soon after the "Prophet" went to hell, his grandson, Imam Hassan had more than 200 wives that he consummated through mut'ah. People are praising his chivalry and asceticism paying little attention of his conjugal life. He possessed none of the characteristic mentioned, just like his grandfather. Islam was a whitewashed religion, the "prophet" was being whitewashed, his companion and family were being whitewashed too.

Humanity is but one family. :)


To Shamsher, Yes, that

To Shamsher,

Yes, that population explosion among Muslims everywhere now seems very threathening in many ways. It is very complicated. At the same time we may be at the brink of a time when humans are getting capable of living ever longer, healthy lives, up to 100 years. So there is a great discrepancy between dying and birthing, and thus Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are destined to grow astronomically in numbers. And with lots of angry young men, without chances, so liable to become Islamic fighters. And all young people are very liable of wanting to migrate towards richer countries, often taking a fanatical Islam with them.

It is very important for us humans to be aware of this demographic problem. Some rays of hope; Already in the Western World and now too in countries like Brasil and Thailand fertility-rates have dropped and are dropping very fast (in Brasil from 6,3 in 1963 to 2,3 in 2000). Much of the rural people move to cities and it is an iron law, it seems, that cities just do not have replacement-ratio of children, which the rural areas have in abundance. Hence the growth of the cities, because of the rural people, but not because of the urban people. So eventually huge urbanisation will grind population explosion to a halt.

We could try to tell something different from the mullahs, like the family planners in Mexico and Indonesia, and yes, in Iran too, and say; it is better to have a good future for a limited number of children than it is to have many children, who have less chances, less prosperity etc. China even made laws about it. We could figure out the ideal ratio of adults versus children, in order to give children an optimal future and promote that worldwide. And almost all parents want to have their children to have a good youth and future.

And we could promote women-autonomy everywhere as a good goal, because it is only subservient sheep-like, man-dependent women that actually do get so many children. Most autonomous women, with the possibility to provide for themselves only get 1 to 3 children. And of course Muslims should realise that it is better for sons to have intelligent, well educated, self-confident mothers than illiterate, undeveloped, miserable mothers.


arslan, thanks for your

arslan, thanks for your letter. Additionally, thanks for telling us your occupation and leanings. Your interests marked your departure from Islam. People who are kind, want to help others including animals and understand life cannot be masked off from the rest of the world by Islam.

Arsian, please join the FFI forum and continue to make your reasoned contributions to FFI.


Thank you for sharing your

Thank you for sharing your story. After reading this article today http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161855/Britons-HATE-Britain-The... it is good to see that there are ex-muslims out there fighting against them too! Great to meet you!


Thank you for your thoughts,

Thank you for your thoughts, Arslan.
I think you are very brave to debate openly with 'Islamic scholars' even in the UK which has, as we know, a large extremist muslim population (I am a Brit btw!). So, watch your back!

I quite agree that the greatest victims of Islam are the Muslims.
Most muslims, even if 'hafiz' cannot understand the Koran and so believe either a form of 'folk' Islam or what the Imam tells them to believe.
So more power to your elbow - go tell receptive souls the truth about Islam.


Hats off to you... I wish you

Hats off to you... I wish you all the best in all your future endeavors in exposing the truth about that Criminal Mohammed.


Just got to know the first

Just got to know the first sensible Pakistani on Earth . Greetings from India.


PAKISTAN IS IN FACT

PAKISTAN IS IN FACT 'PAGALISTAN' (the country of mad people)


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The voice of Reason from you

The voice of Reason from you Arslan !
Welcome !
Please visit the forum and help decent muslims find who they truly are. Tell them that Yes! they can think for themselves and it's OK to arrive at a different conclusion.
Welcome ! In a normal, sane world you will be invited over for dinner !

A Natural


If all Muslims thought like

If all Muslims thought like Arslan 95% of the world's problems would be solved.
I am an atheist and do not really care for any religion. All religions have blood on their hands, every one of them. But Islam is evil in its purest form. No other religion promotes pedophilia like Islam does. No other religion engages in the violence, and human rights abuse like Islam does. If there is a devil, than Islam is it.
But there is a solution...education and information . Education and information will be the death of Islam, and the internet will lead the way in bringing the facts about the real Islam to the Muslims of the world. Allah cannot stop it. The sooner this happens, the safer we will all be.
Thank You


Good Atheist, I am also

Good Atheist,

I am also atheist. Or, which I prefer, Darwinist/ Freethinker. I recently bought Richard Dawkins' new book.

I agree with you about education and information. For that we should especially target the female half of Islam everywhere, I think. Once as many as possible of them can earn a living and are on the road to autonomy over their lives, speaking English, using the Internet, I hope they will no longer acquiesce in subjugation. Not of themselves, not of other women. And we democratic men should support them as much as we can.

Educated, autonomous women moreover will not let themselves be forced into having more than an average of # 2 children also. That in turn will allow us to educate and take better care of most children. And I feel that ever more humans should take a global view in this, not just a national view. And I view the struggle of FFI not only as a struggle to get rid of Islam. I see it as a struggle FOR progress, and I see Islam standing in the way of this progress.


Demsci, Charles Darwin was

Demsci,
Charles Darwin was the greatest thing ever to happen to mankind. He was the first to ever make sense out of life. Many questions remain, but science will eventually answer them all. What we as a human race need is more science and education to answer all the questions that remain. Religion is the biggest obstacle to acheiving this goal.
The Taliban (religious scholars) in Afghanistan ban all education for women, and ban science and math for men. They know exactly what will destroy their beliefs.
Thanks


Arslan, thank you for writing

Arslan, thank you for writing this article. I am a non-muslim living in the USA. Although the USA is perceived to be a Christian nation, there are many people who claim to be Christians who are non- practicing or borderline. I think many people who claim to be Christians have never read the bible and have little knowledge of the religion. I am wondering if this is true of many muslims as well? What do you mean by non -practicing and borderline muslim? It seems to me in a muslim country you would be under scrutiny for not observing or practicing the requirements of the faith. How much freedom are people given to not observe the laws, but they are still considered a muslim believer? I am puzzled because I thought it was as much of a cultural demand as a religious demand. Most muslims impress me as being very reverent and devoted. This is my first post, and I hope I articulated my questions properly. I am not being contradictory, I am only interested in learning more. Thank you.


Arslan - What a fantasticaly

Arslan - What a fantasticaly truthful outpouring from you! Thank you for sharing that. It has such a genuine feel, it really touhes you.

Keep it up. As more people think these good thoughts and band together, the darkness of ignorance will be lifted and threats from the lunatic fringe will dwindle. In the meantime, we have to watch our backs for the time being, and spread the truth further.


To Arslan: Thank you for

To Arslan:

Thank you for your thoughts, you have a lot of courage.

As a Christain (and a rational/freethinker too) I pray for your saftey and pray for the best in your future.


Arslan: It was refreshing to

Arslan:

It was refreshing to read your post. Please be careful as I know Britain has many issues right now regarding extremism.

I am American and I just spent the afternoon talking with two Muslim friends, one of whom is from Pakistan as well. (my city has a large Muslim population). I seem to know more of the Qur'an than he does since I borrowed an English version copy and started reading it. He doesn't like to read, so now he goes to Mosque every day to ask questions. I fear that he is getting more indoctrinated (he was just following rituals before). The other friend is American born and is more token. My question to you is this, can someone who is searching for the right path in Islam bypass all the ugliness that seems to be portrayed and just follow for peace , or is it inevitable for someone to become 'hardened' and less human? So far, I try to be objective, but it is difficult when I read websites such as FFI. I worry quite a bit for him.